Carlos Granados Podcast

Sexuality Debates, Faith Encounters, and the Art of Dating with Nikki & Ever

Carlos Granados Season 1 Episode 18

Have you ever found yourself embroiled in a debate that started from a simple, yet unexpected question? That's precisely what happened when Nikki joined us, igniting a discussion on whether men's consumption of pornography might inadvertently influence their sexual orientation. Our candid conversation traverses the often unspoken nuances of human sexuality, challenging both personal beliefs and societal norms. This episode is not just a debate; it's a journey through the complex interplay of desire and identity.

Striking a more introspective chord, our dialogue takes us to the intersection of homosexuality and Christian faith. Here, we share heartfelt stories of love, acceptance, and the struggle to align one's beliefs with an ever-evolving world. I open up about the delicate art of embracing individuals for who they are, without forsaking the tenets of my faith, a balancing act that many find themselves performing. Nikki's transformative experiences—from her Muslim roots to a profound Christian encounter—add a layer of depth to our exploration of finding purpose and the power of personal faith.

As we wrap up, we venture into the realms of empathy, purpose, and the quirks of modern dating. Laugh along with our musings on being single yet not settling, and the importance of self-improvement. Before we part, a sincere note of gratitude to you, our listeners, who've made this journey so rewarding. Nikki and I invite you to join us on this intimate, challenging, and sometimes humorous expedition of faith and self-discovery. Don't forget to leave us a rating, but only if we've touched your heart or piqued your curiosity!

Speaker 1:

And for me, for a heterosexual man, to watch pornography. You're literally looking at another man Do whatever, yes, thank you. And that to me is just. I mean, you're seeing his stuff, it's just all over. You're not just watching the girl like you were seeing everything else, and to me it's just unnatural at the end of the day, Like I would think that you wouldn't want to view another man's junk and a truck, but you want to view.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying, only yours and your woman, right, and let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the Carlos Granados podcast, and today I have another special guest, and one of them has been on the podcast already, but the other one has not been wanting to come on. And we have her on and, to be honest, I know you guys can't see because of all the lights, but we're doing this episode at night, so we're going to get mixy for sure. But before that, thank you, guys, to whoever has been listening, supporting, watching my channel, to whoever has subscribed. I appreciate the love. We keep growing on the channel, we keep growing on the podcast and even my own personal health YouTube channel. Man, I appreciate it. Guys, thank you for all the love.

Speaker 2:

Let's continue to grow in the community and, as always, man, be safe out there, because it's New Year. What kind of resolutions we got? We're going to talk about that too. Anyways, without further ado, let's introduce a new member to the team of the podcast team Nikki. What's going on, my girl? Yeah, buddy, yeah buddy, wait wait, yeah, buddy.

Speaker 1:

How long you been waiting for me, for what Be on this podcast.

Speaker 2:

For a long time I've been waiting. That's it. What's up, my girl? How you doing.

Speaker 1:

I'm great. How are you you excited to be here? Yes, of course, this is an honor to be here.

Speaker 2:

Listen. The reason we even are on here together is because obviously is that too loud. No, can you?

Speaker 3:

guys hear that In the background bud. I don't think you should be able to hear All right, bud Cool because we're watching something in the background.

Speaker 2:

You know a little Call of Duty mix, but anyways. So because we actually served well every nice Serb at Victory and she was our boss at one point and she decided to leave us.

Speaker 1:

Woo, that's a strong word.

Speaker 2:

You did leave us, so why'd you leave then, exactly? Anyways, let's not get into that conversation.

Speaker 1:

We can't do that here.

Speaker 2:

Hey, listen, Nikki. Last time we were talking, we all went out to eat. We were having some deep conversations. What were they about?

Speaker 1:

A lot of things.

Speaker 2:

All right, start with something.

Speaker 1:

Photography we just don't jump right into it.

Speaker 2:

We got to jump right into it. So, guys, obviously we're all Christian and we go to the same church and, like I mentioned earlier, we're all just a big group, big family. And we were talking last time and Nikki came up with something. She was like I think people who watch pornography, especially men, they're gay and I'm like we are ever. And I were like what? I was like how does that make sense? So go ahead, explain yourself, give, give, let's see. Before that, we all understand that pornography is not good. It's not good for your soul, it's not good for your future relationships and a lot of us men, obviously we struggle with that.

Speaker 3:

It's not good for you.

Speaker 2:

So of course we understand that and just make sure that we have that as a base. So you guys don't think like, oh, these guys are promoting no, no, no, we're just having a healthy conversation. But the fact that she thought that men who watch porn and pornography is gay, I'm like First, time for me hearing that. Me too. I've never heard of that.

Speaker 1:

So go ahead, talk to us. It's just very much unnatural, right? We know what goes on in pornography, especially when I just talking about gay pornography.

Speaker 2:

We're actually speaking about. Heterosexual Right.

Speaker 1:

And for me, for a heterosexual man to watch pornography. You're literally looking at another man.

Speaker 3:

Clapping cheeks Do whatever. Yes, thank you.

Speaker 1:

And that to me is just. I mean, you're seeing his stuff, it's just all over. You're not just watching the girl Like you were seeing everything else, and to me it's just unnatural at the end of the day, like I would think that you wouldn't want to view another man's junk and junk, but you want to view. You know what I'm saying? Only yours and your woman.

Speaker 2:

Brian. So have you watched porn? For have you no, so you never have.

Speaker 1:

I've seen snippets but I have not full blown watched. Got into the mix. Yeah, no, OK.

Speaker 2:

That makes a little bit more sense too, though, because you know what Good for you, though, man. I'll give you props for that, because once you get into the mix.

Speaker 1:

It's not easy. You know what I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, ok, got you. So I want to give you a little feedback on, I guess and I'm not defending it, because, again, it's not right but we don't watch it to watch the man. We watch it because whenever men watch pornography, it's more on the lines of you envision you being that man and doing the work. Does that make sense? It makes sense. So, when you said that I'm like well, I'm not looking at his junk, right.

Speaker 1:

Your intentions may not be to look at this man.

Speaker 2:

OK.

Speaker 1:

However, you still are.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. But because we're envisioning, yeah, ebra, what you going to say about this. What's your thoughts on this?

Speaker 3:

It's perspectives. I see where Nick is coming from and I get it, but I don't know. I'm kind of on both sides. Yeah, at the end of the day it's not. You know, you're not going to just watch it as like, let me try to see which way makes both sides.

Speaker 2:

You know what makes sense? Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 3:

No, I get you Because I think it might be like it definitely the perspective from like from a woman, or towards like a man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's, my understanding, is at least sex. And that's not necessarily sex, it's porn.

Speaker 2:

Wait, wait.

Speaker 3:

So if you, if you it might be man, you know, for men it's it's more physical.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

For women it's more emotional.

Speaker 1:

But would you be mad if your woman was watching pornography or let's just take out the pornography out of the picture was actually doing the act? But I'm confused, like you had a girl or whatever she's actually doing the act with another woman and another man in front of you. She was doing it in front of me.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, no, that's cheating, that's not even different but the people on the on the people on the other side. They're not related to us, they're not like.

Speaker 1:

But you still consider that a little bit cheating and not.

Speaker 2:

No, well, if I, what that does you? You got you to where you moved the goalpost, bro. Yes, you moved the goalpost because you?

Speaker 3:

just said two different things and I would.

Speaker 2:

I would get into the way you've been cheated on. That's a reason. That's the reason you go in?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I have, but then to we can talk about that. But then to like it's still. To me it's still equal playing. Feel like you wouldn't like it at the end of the day, whether it's different.

Speaker 2:

Would you like?

Speaker 1:

is watching pornography though.

Speaker 2:

That's OK. See, that's actually different too, because I would. I would not like my woman, for my woman, to watch pornography, not just because we're in the relationship too, but you know, then you wonder if something missing in our, in our you know sexual life that is causing her to watch. You know pornography, and I think that's the reason you know pornography is also really bad, because in your mind, when you well, not even your mind, but when you search, you know, in the websites you can find whatever you like.

Speaker 2:

So in real yeah, it's always very unrealistic actually. Yeah, that's a, that's a good, that's a great point actually. Wait. So do you believe that woman that watch porn on lesbians too?

Speaker 1:

In a sense, yes, because it's just not unnatural. It's unnatural. It's unnatural things, to watch another person, another human being, do anything that is just not like that's that's meant to be sacred.

Speaker 3:

Yeah right.

Speaker 1:

At the end of the day, you know I'm saying and whether you say you're straight or not, like I feel like there's a level of perversion in you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is attractive.

Speaker 1:

This is this kind of thing Because there's a level of perversion in gay men.

Speaker 2:

That's attracted to another man, right and that's sick.

Speaker 1:

So for a heterosexual to watch another heterosexual perform acts, it's like okay, well, there's a level. It's the same kind of level perversion it's equal level right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I mean it's all lust. Everything is kind of rooted from the big G, the big lust thing Right. If you think about it like a pyramid, it's all lust, and lust has its branches. Like are you let me.

Speaker 2:

Let me ask you a deep question, because you mentioned you know gay people and stuff. So I had a friend ask me one time how well, it was a friend who has a gay best friend and she came up to me and she was like, how do you feel about you know, this certain person being around you? And I'm like I have no problem. I was like, well, how do you feel about, since you're Christian and you know he's, you know gay? Like I was like, well, that has nothing to do with me. God told me to love everybody and I'll love you and I respect you.

Speaker 2:

It's until you start crossing the line is we're now have a problem, but you, in a sense, you know being homosexual. That's not our need for me to judge. I'm not, you know, because I'm going to be judge myself. You know what I mean, so I try to. I think there's a lot of different perspective on that. You know people automatically think that just because you're our, you know homosexual, whether it's a man or a woman. You know we're not here to judge. We're not here to. That's not our job. I'll still love you regardless and I'll still have respect for you. How do you feel about that you feel the same way.

Speaker 1:

Oh, 1000%. Yeah, because it's the whole love the center, hate the sin, kind of thing.

Speaker 2:

Ooh, Nikki, hold up, you're about to drop I love this. Say it one more time for the people all the way in the back.

Speaker 1:

Love the center, hate the sin. I still love you as a human being. I still love you as a person. You might have great character qualities.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But what you do with your sexual history and life situation. Exactly. That's obviously against my morals, because I follow the morals of God.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

I can't condone that. So, anything that involves you know. Whether it be, I don't know, but I'm not going to be there. Right 1000% I can't support that and I can't encourage you in that and high five.

Speaker 3:

you in that Correct, However.

Speaker 1:

I'm still gonna love you. If you're in, you know need. Definitely going to help you out. 1000%. Definitely going to love you, whatever support. However, there's a very thin line. Again, love the center.

Speaker 3:

Hate the same. So I went to a concert sometime last year and I forgot exactly when it was and it was kind of that scenario. So actually one of the guys, he was sitting next to me and you know, he was somewhat homosexual.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But I kind of find it like, okay, and this is. You know, at that moment I found it hypocritical. It's like you know, you're living that lifestyle, but at the same time it's like, hey, you're praising God, and that's where I'm like I'm confused. But you know what, though, maybe they are trying to work into you know, that's what my mom told me, because I went to the concert with my mom and then the kind of conversation on the way like home is like, I don't get it yeah.

Speaker 3:

She's like look, that's his lifestyle, but one thing is he's looking towards you know, he's looking for God. But it's the sin, what you know. You're not going to judge people. No one's perfect but it's like how she said you know it's the sin hate the sin, don't hate, the person, and you know kind of looking into that. And there there's this one guy on YouTube. His name's Cliff, Okay, I forget his last name. He's really good at explaining everything, because you know there's always talks about like, oh, religion.

Speaker 1:

Christianity, this and you guys are.

Speaker 3:

religion is one thing, jesus is a whole different thing.

Speaker 1:

Say that again, say it again.

Speaker 3:

So, it's, it's um so you know, I've like, I've kind of been kind of just digging into that and it's like okay, like I understand it, you know, like love the person, right, you just hate their sin, just you know. Jesus hates the sin and it's hard to understand, but it's like hey, they're a human being too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he creates it. That's God's creation. Yeah, yeah, it's God's creation you can't hate that.

Speaker 3:

It's you know. Unfortunately, you got to hate the sin.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So who am I to judge? Right, amen. And the funny thing is, god sees it all as equal playing field, like whether you're a homosexual or a thief or a murderer.

Speaker 2:

That's the same degree.

Speaker 1:

He hates that regardless.

Speaker 2:

So so. So what? So you don't believe there is different degrees of sin.

Speaker 3:

You believe there's one sin and Bible says the same way, and that's you know. I've always found that like brother, ever bro hey listen brother ever two years ago we wouldn't, but now men's locked.

Speaker 1:

And this is what Jesus does. That's why I'm trying to get my life together.

Speaker 2:

Hey no that's good, bro, keep going, keep going. Sorry to interrupt you.

Speaker 1:

Sorry.

Speaker 2:

I know I killed your fire, bro. My bad Not, but you're right though. So and that's true of people that are, you know, watching or listening to us there is, you know.

Speaker 2:

It's an equal playing field, like you said, when it comes to sins and also even forgiveness for God. You know, this is good and, by the way, and we are Christian and we are not ashamed of that. But the reason I know you guys finding why are they having these conversations? Why are we? Well, because it's healthy to have these conversations between us, right, it's healthy to know our point of views, it's healthy to discuss it. We're not here. It's because it's a part of our lives and we're not trying to hide that. It's a lifestyle you know, and in even here in my channel. This is a reason why I'm so open to talking about different things, because people will learn about certain things.

Speaker 2:

Going back to that, I had someone in my channel that I was going live and he was like, yeah, you know, I'm like, you know, open, like I'm gay and stuff like that and you know whatever. And you know I feel kind of weird coming into your channel and saying anything because you know you're Christian. And I was like listen, brother, that doesn't matter, man, I still love you regardless. I don't know you, you're in different lives, but my job is not to judge you, my job is to love you and, just like God loves me, I will love you, and God is love. So that's what I'm going to represent towards you. So welcome to the family. It's okay, you can be in my channel, whatever you know what I'm saying locked in Amen, Amen.

Speaker 1:

You know Jesus did that in the Bible.

Speaker 2:

What.

Speaker 1:

The same thing that you just explained, that you did. He was loved on a. Basically there was a prostitute you remember that. I remember that she had five husbands, and even the sixth one wasn't even her man.

Speaker 2:

She was another woman's man, maybe.

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

But she was in the mix. She was in the mix.

Speaker 1:

She got too much. You know what I'm saying. And the way that Jesus kind of approached her was through acts of love. He didn't really condemn her. He didn't really put her to shame in any kind of way, and to me that's just an example of how all of us should be.

Speaker 2:

I just got chills. I ain't going to cap. That would be. Go ahead, sister, this is what you want. This is what you want.

Speaker 1:

But I'm just saying I think we need to all really approach people with love. The Bible literally just says we owe man nothing but love. All of us owe each other love and that's it. We don't owe no explanation. We don't owe, no, how you do it Like it's just love 1,000% love.

Speaker 2:

And that's the way we got to care ourselves. Amen. So you are very well-knowledged in the Bible and stuff, since I've known you through victory. So what is something that you can say to people who are struggling with like no sexual immorality or sins and stuff like that? I know for me I've talked about this, even in my channel. That's been a big deal and a big part of my life for many different reasons. So what do you have to say to people like that, who are also struggling, or maybe that struggle with it or anything? Just the words of advice, encouragement, wisdom. Whatever you got to say about that, you got anything.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I put you on the spot. You did, you really did, ok, but I will probably say hey, welcome to the podcast. Oh, I'm on it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let's get it.

Speaker 1:

But I would say I think you kind of have to get to know God better, get to know Jesus better, get to know yourself better, because essentially how it was explained to me and how Jesus changed my life, because I also struggled with sexual addiction or whatever, and I had to learn God better and fill my love tank essentially with more of God, instead of looking for it in outside places with other men.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

Gotcha.

Speaker 1:

Really not going to get anywhere with that, because it's just going to be a cycle.

Speaker 2:

A cycle At the end of the day.

Speaker 1:

But when you start getting to know God better for yourself, really knowing his character, his love, his attributes, that will fill you up. Because if you think about a relationship like you want to gain the trust of the person that you're in love with, you want to gain the love of the person that you're in a relationship with and you start to think about the closer you get to this person you don't want to hurt this person in any kind of way you start watching how you think, you start watching where you go, you start watching the decisions that you make Because, essentially, you don't want to lose this person. You don't want to lose their trust.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying so the closer you get to this person, the more you get to know this person. It starts changing your heart. It starts changing the way you think how you move. Essentially, it's the same thing with God the closer you get to God by prayer, by reading the Bible, by worshiping, by being in community, you know serving. Yes, it changes you right. You start falling in love with God. You start, you know, thinking about the decisions that you're making, the clothes you wear where you're going. You know you're gonna stop going to the club.

Speaker 2:

Throwing it back, Okay 1000%.

Speaker 1:

Anything is possible. You don't stop with the hand raises. You know what I'm saying? Look back at it now.

Speaker 2:

You don't do that, no more, nikki definitely has experience Talking from experience Not 100%, but this is good, though I prefer somebody talking from experience because they know what it's like.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. I don't want to hear from no preacher that has never been through anything Like don't tell me what to do if you've never been through it. I want to know somebody who's been through a struggle, through it and then knows the execution plan, so that they can also tell other people how to escape. What good is a prisoner who's trapped? Like you know, he's still got handcuffs on right and he learned how to escape.

Speaker 2:

I'm just gonna do this stuff. This is actually good. I know where you're going, though. Right, learn how to escape.

Speaker 1:

Are you trying? To set other prisoners free. How you gonna learn how to escape.

Speaker 2:

If you don't know how to, you've never been there, thank you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you. So you know, I'd rather have somebody who has been experienced in any kind of struggle up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you've been in, got you, I appreciate that those are.

Speaker 3:

Those are good. Amen, sister Nikki, that sounds like a nun.

Speaker 1:

I'm not a nun. Yo, this is. I can see it, bro. I can see a little pastor and Nikki yeah. I can see you out there. Would you ever consider that? I mean, it's been, it's been tossed around a lot over my life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I can see it, man, for real, you got the fire for it yeah.

Speaker 1:

Amen, I received. That's all, god, I'm telling you. Like whenever you encounter Jesus Christ, the man, Jesus Christ himself not church, not religion, but Jesus himself and into that relationship with him. Your whole life is different. Like everything about you is different. What is it saying in the Bible? Like you're a whole new creation in him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Basically are Amen.

Speaker 2:

I like that, nikki, we started off with hot, was he a?

Speaker 1:

little bit If we forget to turn the heater off, bro. No, it's the weather.

Speaker 2:

The weather change. So let you know what. Let's talk about a little bit of how you know even we met, because I think that's important too, and how we got so close to each other. So for those of you guys that don't know, Nikki, what were you doing as a? So I can let them know what was your position when I first started serving.

Speaker 1:

We can just say I was over volunteer ministry.

Speaker 2:

She was over volunteer ministry. She was the goat. So when I got there to serve in the parking lot, she was my boss. She was my boss technically.

Speaker 1:

She was new, you, boss? I mean, you was already there before I got there.

Speaker 2:

Me no, no, no, my brother, what?

Speaker 1:

time did you start? Wait, what year I?

Speaker 2:

thought you started before me.

Speaker 1:

I started in 2021.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like the summer almost.

Speaker 1:

The summer. Yeah, yeah, we started at the same time. That's what I'm telling you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well and then ever came along. Yes, and then she was our boss yeah 2022.

Speaker 3:

Some.

Speaker 2:

April.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because I remember the first time I went.

Speaker 3:

It was the first time I went, I served.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Like day one hey.

Speaker 1:

Nick. Hey, she was like ever.

Speaker 2:

I need you right now. I was like yo. Nicky said. Nicky said at one time she was like, can you guys serve an extra service? And she'd never got us off that extra service.

Speaker 3:

She never said you guys are good.

Speaker 2:

You guys are good this day, we're still serving two services.

Speaker 1:

Big cap.

Speaker 2:

That's not. That's not a cap at all. Big cap I was actually trying to prevent y'all from serving two services. I know, yeah, I respect it, yo, but hey, hey, hey, hey, he started serving 2022. Hey, guess who the leader now is, though, my boy the leader of the parking lot holding it down, Wait, wait wait, that's pretty cool, and so you used to look basically over us and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

And you know what, Nicky man, you did a really great job with those. I feel like you always cared for for the whole group and I actually care for our sanity to be there. Man, you do a great job. See, this is the reason why we even tell you get we can see you being higher up and doing maybe a little pastor. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I can see it PN, you know saying nah, I mean it was just an honor, like I genuinely just love people, right, and that was one of the first things God told me when he wanted me to work for the church was hey, I need you to love my people. And that was that like love my people.

Speaker 2:

Did you feel like it was tough working for a church when especially when God spoke to you to that day or he led you in that direction? Because I think many of us guys know that you know when you work for a church it's not like you're that you know paid like extremely high, you know and do you feel like it was hard because of that or worse? What are some of the code, like cons in the pros or what? Do you think they're all pros?

Speaker 1:

when it comes to, that's a tricky question because this is my first experience with a church ever. Oh mind you, I didn't grow up in church, I grew up in Islam, I grew up in Muslim.

Speaker 2:

Wait, so when did you convert?

Speaker 1:

When I was 21. And that was 2015,. April.

Speaker 2:

Okay, Wait. So you're about to turn 29. I'm 30.

Speaker 1:

I'm already 30. So I wasn't 2015. No, you're right, I was 21.

Speaker 2:

The math is math.

Speaker 1:

Get your boy Get your boy.

Speaker 2:

His math ain't math. We were in 2023, bro. We're in 2024. Let's catch it up. I haven't started my year yet.

Speaker 1:

But now, like I didn't, I didn't grow up in church. I didn't grow up knowing who Jesus Christ was. I knew Allah. Serve Allah. Quick question, nikki, so what made you convert? Jesus Christ himself.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so you actually like research? How to say no? Explain.

Speaker 2:

So it was a real encounter.

Speaker 1:

I dang, I'm about to tell my school. Okay, whatever, this is my testimony. I went to Georgia Southern.

Speaker 2:

University, so they're not state. Thank you for coming to the podcast.

Speaker 3:

We'll end it right here because, we are panthers, panthers only GSU.

Speaker 2:

So they're not state the real GSU Shout out to GSU bleed blue.

Speaker 1:

Don't listen to them Anyway. So I went to Georgia Southern, and at that time I don't know if it's still the number one party school in Georgia, but when.

Speaker 3:

I went. It's probably up there with UGA yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I went there for fun. I didn't go there for school.

Speaker 2:

I did not go there for school.

Speaker 1:

I went there for absolute big fun.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, we're going to hear your story how you got saved. Yeah, yeah, Tell us.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you know what I'm saying. I mean, it's pretty much a college town. You know, you have a lot of bars and stuff like that, and it was legitimately at a bar where I literally heard the voice of God was just like, hey, this is not you, you're not supposed to do it. In the bar, In the bar I don't remember what the name of the bar is, but literally in the bar I'm trying to be like everybody else. Have a great time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't working for me. I tried to fit so much. Like I try to fit myself in these certain crowds growing up and I've always kind of struggled. I got along great with people 1,000% I didn't. Till this day I still get along great with people but I just kind of never fit in, never really belonged to a certain crowd.

Speaker 1:

But I try to force my way in because you know what I'm saying. That's your surrounding, that's the culture Everybody's having fun drinking, a little bit partying. What's wrong with that? Yeah, no. So that quickly kind of wrapped up. That night. I just heard this voice and I just couldn't go to sleep. The next morning, I think, I went on campus and I was just kind of urged to find some sort of small group Bible study, like a campus crusade or whatever.

Speaker 1:

And I legitimately ran into a campus crusade and the leader of that group just kind of approached me, talked to me about it and invited me to her group. So I went Later, found out she ended up being my professor the following semester, which was cool, but I think during the time it was just a semester just going to her group, you know, consistently going to Bible study. I think we were meeting once a week and she was legitimately teaching me who this man, jesus, was. So then she invited me to her church and we were there to celebrate. Another girl from the group that was getting baptized.

Speaker 2:

OK.

Speaker 1:

So I was like you know, and I was at this time I think I was kind of struggling to party, not to party, to party, not to party. It was like a tug of war. Eventually, you know, as I'm learning the Bible, as I'm reading the word where it literally says stop partying, stop drinking and all of that stuff, and somewhere in Romans and Acts and all of that stuff, Somewhere in the Book of Life, somewhere in the Book of Life in the New Testament.

Speaker 1:

I knew that much. I ended up choosing you know what. Let me just go ahead and see what this lady's talking about and go to this church. So I go to the church and they're there to have like a you know, outdoor water baptism. But it was endorsed at that time. It wasn't called that, but you know what we were called. So they make an extra altar call for people who hadn't registered and wanted to get baptized in the spur of the moment.

Speaker 1:

And I kid you not, guys. Like I legitimately saw myself rise up, I did not know what baptism was. Had zero clue at the time that this was Holy Spirit. But this was Holy Spirit Literally got. I had zero control of my body.

Speaker 3:

Zero control of my body Got up.

Speaker 1:

I look over and my you know small group leader, whatever like she is like mind-blowing, oh my God.

Speaker 2:

Biggie Holy, so nice Exactly that.

Speaker 1:

Do it again.

Speaker 2:

One more time. Oh, my God Biggie.

Speaker 1:

And I'm just clueless as heck.

Speaker 3:

I'm just like okay whatever.

Speaker 1:

So you know, I go change, get up there on the stage in this little platform and they have a pool of water and that water is ice cold, freezing cold, and I'm just, oh my gosh. But as soon as you know, they asked me the question is Jesus Christ, your Lord and Saviour? And I said, yes, I go down and I come back up, and it felt like I was in a hot tub.

Speaker 2:

Wow, no way.

Speaker 1:

Hot tub, like boiling water, and literally from that day on, like I just I didn't know at the time, but this was Holy Spirit again just come inside of me and I'm reading the Bible through and through. Like I literally do away with all the nonsense and just straight up read the Bible Like I didn't even I didn't even read my school books Like how do we know how I graduated, which is or passed? Any of my classes, but I first took all and got converted that day, April 1st 2015.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's wild. That's a wild story. I appreciate you sharing that, of course. Yeah, what's the difference? I have a question. So what's the difference between like Allah and then Jesus? They don't believe in Jesus, right? How does that go?

Speaker 1:

They believe that Jesus is a prophet and like or failed, in a sense to Failed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's just a little Like a failed prophet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like he was supposed to come and you know, be God incarnation or whatever, but like because he died and he don't believe in the whole resurrection kind of thing, like it's just. It's just a little weird thing with with Muslims and they believe Allah is like everything and then and Muhammad and so Allah's God to what we perceive as God, but he was just a prophet. But they don't believe he has. Jesus was just a prophet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Jesus was just a prophet and they don't believe that they had, like Jesus has power or had any. He didn't write like resurrection. Oh, interesting, I need to get more like informative about that, because I actually don't know.

Speaker 3:

I know about Allah, but there's a lot of interesting YouTube videos that they're so and I don't I'm probably not going to describe it right. So every religion points to Jesus and it kind of says you know, it's like, ok, like Buddhism talks about at least of his knowledge and existence.

Speaker 3:

And then you know, I guess like Jesus. It's kind of like you know what is the way? Jesus is the only one that says I am the way and does not acknowledge any other religions. So there's a lot. I stay up to like midnight, two in the morning. Listen into Bro, like I say.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's interesting, You're beginning in the mix.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, on a work week and I'm like you know what, like at least I got to finish this Right, yeah, so it's interesting stuff, just because I've always had questions.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

My mom knows a lot about the Bible, but some of the questions she can't answer. So I mean, who do you go to if you want to ask questions?

Speaker 2:

You can't go directly to God, and you know you can go, you could go, but I think he meant like, actually like, tangibly like, and so this is OK, I think we've we've had this conversation is like you know what's the point of life?

Speaker 3:

Like, why are we here? Your purpose, what's your purpose? Like, and even if you've kind of known your purpose, you've got that direction from God. Like, but why are we here?

Speaker 2:

Wait, wait, wait, wait. So getting into the mix, you. You told me one time you haven't, you haven't felt like what you found your purpose yet, or what about have you do feel like you have.

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 2:

Not yet. What about you? Have you felt like you found your purpose In?

Speaker 1:

a sense, a little bit, a little bit OK, as as as the story of my life continues to unfold.

Speaker 3:

It's like I help people when I can, yeah, but I think there's just empathy and just trying to be a good person's.

Speaker 1:

Hey, you can help someone out.

Speaker 3:

You have an opportunity you know, you're fortunate enough, god gives you all these things. That hey, help somebody else.

Speaker 2:

That's a good one talking about that one time for purpose, like I don't know my purpose yet, yet, yeah, yeah, no, for real, though, it's true yet so yeah, so it's those type of questions like hey, like why are we here?

Speaker 3:

Or you know, it's kind of like only God knows when we're going to die Right.

Speaker 2:

Yes, no.

Speaker 3:

What it can lift. Just want to be as clear as possible, so yeah in due time, it will come like literally as you continue to like see God that one guy that I tell you, cliff, he and he studied it a lot. He does explain things well and you know we're not gonna know the answers all to this stuff. But you know, I guess the Bible isn't just straightforward with things. It's kind of having Studying it and understanding it, which takes a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what God I wrote and spoke in Parables right because if you do have, the more you keep having that connection and in relationship with him, the more you understand the parables because you have the Holy Spirit in the same Holy. Spirit that was in Jesus is in you. So I had to learn that myself. That like it's like man, some of these things I don't.

Speaker 2:

Doesn't make no sense to me I'm like, but then eventually you know. This is that's why it's important to have, like, a study Bible and even, like you do, like watch videos. That's very important, dude, because you you know people that understand it more, or people like Nikki, who I've been, and the mix for so long, like they explain it better, they help you understand, and then you can do your research on your own.

Speaker 3:

It's funny cuz like tick tock. It has a bunch of like you know hey bro, it's it's like prove to me that God exists. It's just like you know I'll listen in and kind of just like just see what their argument is but it's, it's not.

Speaker 1:

You know they have no argument.

Speaker 3:

It's like I'm not gonna you're, you're talking to a wall. Whatever you you do. It's like prove to me facts. But if the facts are facts Whatever you want to call it facts or whatever you're giving them, you know they're not. They're gonna just disqualify it. It's like no, that's what you think, that's an opinion.

Speaker 1:

That's not a fact.

Speaker 3:

So it's like okay, Well, there's no argument them.

Speaker 2:

Yes, some people want you to prove that God exists, but they can't.

Speaker 1:

Doesn't exist exactly.

Speaker 2:

So like I'm like, so we're in the same boat. She's like you want, like argue like that's.

Speaker 1:

It's so pointless and literally the Bible says do not waste your time in getting in arguments with people because At the end of the day you gonna look like a fool. No, this is funny because we have a friend well, not a friend anymore, but who loves to freaking, argue and say one more time, repeat the one Time so I can remember that that was a Holy Spirit.

Speaker 2:

Don't play with us like, do not waste your time with arguing with people.

Speaker 1:

At the end of the day, y'all both looking like fools.

Speaker 3:

Mmm. They nobody like if somebody from afar is looking at y'all arguing.

Speaker 1:

They would like y'all dumb some.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, idiots dumb, stupid, stupid, oh stupid, oh, cirque de soleil.

Speaker 1:

Anybody that's looking to argue. You just wasting your time and your breath at the end of the day, like what's the point? The Bible says like don't cast your pearl to swine. So, don't cast your pearls to swine.

Speaker 2:

All right, I'm gonna need a little break down. Yes, okay, Okay come on, come on, brother, come on.

Speaker 1:

I'm thinking swine flu essentially Pearls is something valuable, right, like you know you're right, I got it right. So don't be casting them to pig. That's just gonna follow with a cliff.

Speaker 3:

Is that like the same thing with, like you know, the the, the bee trying to explain to the fly why honey is better than shit?

Speaker 1:

Yeah okay.

Speaker 2:

That's cool, we, we can get into the mix. Now it's past five minutes, at least that's what I know. I mean, I don't know afterwards, but yeah, I mean I'd be like that sometimes. It's created content by us, so it's not copyrighted, natural. If they copy me, then it's copyrighted Copy. See los over here. Yeah, that's interesting Yo say that one more time ever. What was that?

Speaker 3:

But the bee? Yeah, oh man, it's, essentially it's. It's the bee explaining to the fly why honey is better than shit. Then do do.

Speaker 2:

I don't know guys, but if you, I'm learning a little bit.

Speaker 3:

It's a never-ending like argument that like the flies gonna say you know, shit is better.

Speaker 1:

It's dumb, right, so don't waste your time, guys.

Speaker 2:

So you're saying Nikki's a fly. If you guys are listening and not watching, you should have seen her face.

Speaker 3:

So the funny thing is that, um, nikki and I we were supposed to go eat today and then About hey, like I'm gonna go eat with Nikki, and he's like, oh you know what, like y'all should come and like do the podcast. And then I told him like to later. I was like, hey, nikki, like we're going over Carlos's house next, and he's like what you mean? I was like, oh, we're gonna shoot the podcast and we discusses. A week ago I bought a week ago.

Speaker 2:

I Got a sick Nick. Yes, oh god in me bro Sorry. Hey, you know little Bobby Smurder, I mean what's up.

Speaker 1:

No, I appreciate that too sometimes Some of these, you know, secular music, profit be profit sign.

Speaker 2:

You know, I Don't know if you guys work out often, but I always made the case like right now, like the Christian rap is not up there with like the actual Bangers and working out with Christian's apps not the same.

Speaker 3:

So it's not even like the rap, like there is the beat EDM and the beats. Nice the beat. I bet that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

I think we're waking away. We're waking away up Christian music, christian rap.

Speaker 3:

We're there is some nice music there, it's just it's harder to find it is so hard.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's hard to find and some of it is just At least I'm like the suggested just because it's, you will my whole playlist.

Speaker 3:

It's eight and you know 95% of this and it's like that 5% that now I'm trying to listen to yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's hard to capture it is and just to wrap itself, I feel like it's, it's coming though Some of it's good, I don't know. Yeah, it's someone. Someone was good because if you put like Eminem and you start, you know I lose yourself. And I'm a bra. You know you're about the max, you know, you know you're about to hit your PR, but Sometimes you know it don't it. Don't feel like that with Christian rap.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're Christian, we're getting up there, though.

Speaker 2:

We're getting in the mix. We're getting in the mix you just gotta find the right one. Yeah, I know that that's what they all say, but we always choose the wrong one.

Speaker 1:

So let me guys ask y'all a question.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead, Nicky.

Speaker 1:

Why y'all still single?

Speaker 2:

Hey, what was that video you sent me ever Bachelor? Listen, listen, listen, listen. Y'all are up here in your 30s right? Yeah, yeah, you got a job.

Speaker 1:

So you got a job. Yeah, go ahead you ain't got no, baby mama drama.

Speaker 2:

Not yet.

Speaker 3:

For you got no baby mama drama right right right.

Speaker 1:

You're in church, you're in community, mm-hmm. I'll make some good money.

Speaker 3:

I Think for me it's quality and I'm, I feel like when I'm, I'm, the older I'm getting, it feels like I'm asking too much, but it's like I just think. It's like, hey, like my life is good right now. At the same time it's like why rock the boat? Yeah, so it's, it's. I don't need, you know, I don't need anybody nagging at me or telling me like you know this or this or that it's I. I'm not gonna say it's necessarily part of life that you know that's gonna happen. I think that's kind of like something between you and your partner that you're gonna work out, or your, your communication. But I, I, just me personally, I haven't found the right one right.

Speaker 3:

I sent Carlos one.

Speaker 2:

It's like that's what I was telling you about.

Speaker 3:

Is it the video, the one that says like, yeah, is it a guy?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's like something along the lines of I'm single not because oh, I'm single because, not because they don't want me. Is that is, the people that I want, don't want? Me yeah Like that that was actually funny, but to ever's point though. Look, I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 1:

Come on, all right, we're gonna get, we're gonna get into it.

Speaker 2:

So, first of all, I think, similar simulators, similar similarities similar that we similar similarities, similarities.

Speaker 3:

Now.

Speaker 2:

I miss similarities, similarities, holy smokes, dude, similarities, similarities, similarities that every night have right dang bro.

Speaker 1:

That was a tough one you know one point I couldn't say, literally, I can't say Literally statistics, statistics statistics, statistics Is there where you?

Speaker 3:

Not off the top of my head now ever is the smart one. No, it's because I've Practiced, I've been in this country.

Speaker 1:

I've acknowledged those words and I try to practice them because it's like, okay, they get me every time and I and I just practice some, practice them.

Speaker 3:

You know what I think it's more of the spelling is like if you try to spell like miscellaneous. So it's like okay, I got a tough one I need out of correct with that one.

Speaker 1:

Right click okay.

Speaker 2:

But to answer your question, well, first of all, I think we started, we found God in our high 20s and we got started getting closer to the Lord. So our perspective and things had, you know, changed a lot. So I mean this includes with the people that you surround yourself with, in case your priorities, the way you go about things, right including, got into your plan and not leave him out of it, with just you trying to take over. So little things like that changed us. And, and speaking for myself, I felt like I needed to work a lot of myself so one day I can actually be 100% to the woman that wants to be my wife. And, you know, I've been more open to Dating. I've been open to like being more emotional, emotionally available. But, to be honest, I started to notice I don't know if it's because and I don't want to to my own horn here but I don't know it's because I've grown so much that, like there are some women that still have not grown out of a lot of things.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying? No, there were some very childish women out here, yeah, and hurt women, and Her bro hurt woman, yes bro, hurt, unhealed and it's just hard to show.

Speaker 2:

Let me tell you something. Come on, let me tell you something. I had a. I had a girl that I was trying to date and I was doing all the right things, right, we're not gonna say any names, but, um, I was doing everything right, you know, I was carrying myself the the good way, I was treating her well, taking out our dates, blah, blah, right. You know what happened, bro. She was like yo, you're, you're too good. Yeah, that's the problem, where is the wrong? And I was like, what wrong?

Speaker 3:

Yeah what are?

Speaker 2:

you talking about.

Speaker 3:

What wrong just looking for the negative?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was like See, I'm waiting for the negative, I'm like, if you're gonna look for a negative, you're gonna find one girl Like it's, it's not. It's not. As opposed to be bro, I'm like, but you know what, don't make II, I'm to be honest, I'm not even concentrating too much about that because I know it's gonna come. You know, I know it's gonna come eventually and it is what it is. Like it, I'm actually excited about how much time I have Available to my hands to do the podcast, to work on my youtube channels, to spend with friends, to spend time doing the like like.

Speaker 2:

I started learning the piano recently. You know, um, I love playing video games. I love taking care of what I do at home, my job, my family. Having a lot of that time, I feel like I'm enjoying it, I'm embracing it, you know. So one day I won't have that like Feeling of like, oh, I missed on that. I wish I could have none of that. You know I'm, I want to be 100%. You know I mean, uh, what were you gonna say ever before I interrupt you?

Speaker 1:

That's my bad dude, I was getting.

Speaker 2:

I was getting in my Feels, I was getting in the mix twix, you know man.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I have a lot to say, a lot, but Plus we are high on the market. Ladies and gentlemen, all right, I mean I'm eligible in our 30s.

Speaker 2:

come on, making over six figures Working our relationship with christ. Come on, what else ever?

Speaker 1:

Drive nice cars. Oh, ain't no baby mama drama, no, baby mama drama, man sister Crazy ex girlfriend, man of values family, man Come on now. Yeah, everything you ever wish for it in.

Speaker 2:

That's exactly why it's kind of hard, like it's like I want somebody to match my energy, um, kind of my I'm not saying my standards up there, but I carry my, I try to carry myself very high Um gotta be picky man, because I didn't work this hard just to hand it out like candy, right, and I mean like if I were to marry you or something like I didn't I mean work on myself so much so I can. Just you know, somebody just comes in and just you know, just kind of I wouldn't say, take advantage of it, but take advantage of what, what you're working for, exactly right.

Speaker 1:

Because, like, like you said, if you worked yourself so hard to be a fine, excellent man of god and then you have this chick who has not hardly worked on herself, Full of attitude. You know what I'm saying and I've been there, it's not valuable.

Speaker 2:

Oh wait, the hurt's coming.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 3:

Not a risk, oh no.

Speaker 1:

Like to your point. The person that you describe like she's obviously hurt, like she she has. She has yet to renew her mind Because she's over here expecting where's the bet? Like why should there?

Speaker 2:

be. I found that very off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she's still hurt and unhealed. That's how you know that she's unhealed or anybody is unhealed, because if they're still looking for something to be wrong, like that threw me off.

Speaker 2:

You know, like Mario Kart, when you're on like Rainbow Road and you just slipping a banana and fall. That's how I got me. Yeah, I got caught and I was. I went from first place to like eighth place. Yeah, that was a good analogy, brother, and you're welcome. What about you?

Speaker 1:

You know what y'all gotta gas me up though.

Speaker 2:

All right, no wait. First of all, you, a single woman, you take care of your business, you're a woman of god, you're out, you actually hype a lot of people up and you, you're, you're, you're a family girl, you love people, people. Yeah, you got.

Speaker 1:

What's up, I mean what you're waiting for, the right one.

Speaker 3:

Okay, she's ready, she's waiting for the right one to take care of.

Speaker 2:

So if there is any single gentleman out there that matches an energy. We are accepting applications On behalf of me.

Speaker 3:

We'll put her contact at the end of the time. We'll put your.

Speaker 2:

Instagram, there Instagram sign Although what's saying.

Speaker 3:

Stop.

Speaker 2:

You'll get a response like a month later, listen, listen, we'll respond in two to five business days, depending on how much work we got If she's in Europe or not yeah, if she's traveling or not.

Speaker 1:

But no, I mean, hey, I'm available, I'm out here, I'm doing all the right things. You know what I'm saying. Working on my chef game. You know what I'm saying learning how to keep a home. Getting everything up there, my heart is right.

Speaker 3:

We gotta, we gotta, we gotta get some cooking going. We gotta, we gotta test that they're playing on my skills.

Speaker 1:

It's just because they never had it right. You can't ever.

Speaker 3:

I'll be waiting for that lobster tail and some crab legs.

Speaker 1:

He wants something expensive, but we don't. Don't want to put a ring on it, okay. Oh, ever she throwing it at you.

Speaker 2:

Anyway and I'm not talking about ring pop Something- is wrong with you.

Speaker 1:

All right, I think it's because it's late at night.

Speaker 2:

It's late at night, but it's fun yeah but not like.

Speaker 1:

I mean Just like women a lot.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot of hurt men out there too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, I think people really do need to kind of spend time alone.

Speaker 1:

And time with God, knowing themselves and knowing God and healing like I took years to heal you know from my mess and baggage or whatever. Like it's just not cute, like came around baggage and you know things from childhood and things from exes, like you're giving people the wrong mail, unfortunately. So, um, I think a lot of people really have to work on themselves, because then you have good quality people like us, we over here waiting for the right person, and you know say, oh, mr Josh, whatever, you're ready for the right person and he's right next to you shoot Person and he's right next to you shoot she's talking about rings talking about you I don't got money, you want to shoot your shot right now.

Speaker 3:

I suck at basketball.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you're about to break it. He about to do it on purpose.

Speaker 1:

Airball, hey, oh, you see, there's always that little bit of immaturity.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's fun, though you know it's always fun, it's always it can't be all serious, bro, it's life, you know it is life.

Speaker 1:

That's why I love laughing like I think I mean. Joy is my vibe every time, every time.

Speaker 2:

So joy, joy, oh okay, joy is my vibe. I respect that, niki, that I appreciate your, uh, your input in that, in that situation, because there anything else that you guys would want to add or share, maybe talk about Good, this is not, this was good, no, this was good. I think we, uh, we're we're going into into that ending point, ladies and gentlemen. Um, you guys should definitely come on next time. You know we're gonna have like a nice sessions. We should have those like you know what I?

Speaker 2:

mean, like, think about topics so that we can have nice sessions and like where I bring on it's like we're just going to talk about certain topics. By the way, I appreciate you guys sharing Uh, you guys this point of views on things. I think that's also important. It's also healthy to To see different point of views, because everybody has a different point of, different story and even background when it comes to things you know. So that in itself, I think it's important for people to see and then to see you know three single Christians out here Also what the different mindsets you know it's like we're not perfect. We have struggled, we continue to struggle, but that's not, that's not what life is about. But you know, it's always Chance and room for you to get better, to work in your sovereign relationship with God. So I appreciate you guys being on here today. It's good to have you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you for being back it's oh hey, it's fun, right, nicky? So this was not at my schedule. They told me five seconds before I got on.

Speaker 3:

Hey, and you won't regret it. You'll come back, of course.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the boys we're the, the dream team at um victory, victory norcross shut out.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to the team parking lot heroes. Hey, thank you guys for watching and thank you guys for listening. Hopefully you guys enjoyed this episode. You know, as always, I always try to have something a little different for you guys, but you know what? Always something really real, something that, even though we make fun of or we laugh a lot, uh, but we do share real things that maybe you guys can take and apply it to your life or maybe even think about so. Uh, hopefully you guys enjoyed listening. Hopefully you guys watching in 4k. Don't forget to subscribe to my channel. This episode is also on amazon music, apple podcast and spotify. Don't forget to subscribe.

Speaker 2:

Maybe leave a little you know rating and stuff like that if you enjoyed it and if you didn't, don't leave a rating. You know what I mean. But if you do leave a little, five star, like nicky's pointing out out here. So I appreciate the love guys. Thank you guys, nicky ever, for being here today. It was a pleasure, it was an honor and I see you guys on the next one we have another. Yes, sir, yeah buddy.

Speaker 1:

Thank you guys, raul.

Speaker 2:

See you guys on the next one, peace.